THE OLD RECTORY, LIME PARK

 

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The Old Rectory was occupied by the Church until around 1985, when it changed hands three times in quick succession. It has been occupied by Mr and Mrs Peter Townley since about 1986, when they retired to the area and renamed the building, adding the word "Old".  The buildings were in exceptional condition as the photographs below indicate. In 2007 they were subject of a planning application, which will have the effect of creating two dwellings, where at the moment there is only one. This could lead to parking and additional noise issues within the Park, so destroying the local amenity - especially concerning adjacent properties. Lime Park is predominantly famous for the Generating Works built by the Baron de Roemer and Augustus Hare who lived in Lime House from 1835 to 1860.

 

In 2016 the lapsed application was renewed, but this time the grant contained conditions relating to the Party Wall etc. Act 1992, where a surveyor would need to be instructed and a level of compensation with the occupiers of the Old Generating Works, the oldest surviving electricity station in Europe, dating from C. 1909. 

 

 

 

The Old Rectory, Herstmonceux, Sussex - West facing elevation, unspoiled - Peter and June Townley

 

The Old Rectory - facing into the Park, unspoiled

 

 

 

Application Number: WD/2007/1331/F

 

Planning Application Type: Full

 

Date Received: 25/05/2007

 

Expiry Date: 20/07/2007

Location: THE OLD RECTORY, LIME PARK, HERSTMONCEUX, BN27 1RF.

 

Proposal:  PROPOSED CONVERSION OF EXISTING BUILDINGS AND ADDITION TO FORM RESIDENTIAL RETIREMENT COTTAGE (ANNEXE).

Parish: Herstmonceux

 

National Grid Reference:  563671, 112214

 

UPRN:  10004614909

 

Current Status:  Consultations in Progress - What does Current Status mean ?

 

Consultation Expiry Date:  22/06/2007

 

Committee or Delegated Date:

 

Decision:

 

Decision Date:

 

Case Officer:  Mr D Whibley - DPO Ian Kay

 

Applicant's Name:  Mr & Mrs P Townley

 

Applicant's Address:  The Old Rectory Lime Park Herstmonceux East Sussex BN27 1RF

 

Agent's Name:  Peter G V Kenward FCIOB

 

Agent's Address:  West End House West End Herstmonceux East Sussex BN27 4NL

 

 

 

Peter Townley in Lime Park, Herstmonceux, East Sussex

 

 

Peter Townley

 

 

 

04/06/2007 - (Forms) 8 Pages View as PDF  View as TIFF

 

04/06/2007 (Site Plan) 1 Page View as PDF  View as JPEGMeasure

 

04/06/2007 (Elevations) 1 Page View as PDF  View as TIFF

 

12/06/2007 (Consultation Response) 1 Page View as PDF  View as TIFF

 

19/06/2007 (Consultation Response) 1 Page View as PDF  View as TIFF

 

20/06/2007 (Consultation Response) 1 Page View as PDF  View as TIFF

 

08/06/2007  (Adjoining/Neighbour letters) 1 Page View as PDF  View as TIFF

 

19/06/2007 (Adjoining/Neighbour letters)  3 Pages  View as PDF  View as TIFF

 

 

 

 

The Old Rectory, Herstmonceux, Sussex aerial view, unspoiled - Peter and June Townley

 

 

The Old Rectory - aerial view, unspoiled

 

 

 

District Planning Officer                                                     

Wealden District Council

Pine Grove

Crowborough

East Sussex    TN6 1DH                                                                18 June 2007

 

 

Dear Sir or Madam:

 

RE: The Old Rectory, Lime Park, Herstmonceux WD/2007/1331/F

 

We write with reference to the above application and the previous application for a similar change of use with alterations, made by Mr and Mrs Townley, which was withdrawn.

 

This application is in respect of a turn of the century stables, which use changed in about 1948, to use as a Rectory by the Church. The building is outside the village framework and in a secluded park, for which restrictive country policies apply, except where there are agricultural or other exceptions. The Local Plan requires that applicants for development in the countryside will need to show good reason why the particular proposal should be located here, or that there is an overriding need for the development.

 

The present owners are a retired couple occupying the buildings for many years and not applying for any changes of use when purchasing the property in 1986. The buildings have been adequate as accommodation, without the need for alterations or a change of use for them and other occupiers over the years.

 

We respectfully submit that none of the above criteria have been met which would justify the proposal. As far as we can determine, there are no special considerations which would validate this kind of development in this rural location.  Here, we should like to draw your attention to the decision letter of Raymond Michael dated 22nd October 1997 and please see Paragraph 66.

 

Parking congestion – Unacceptable traffic conditions:

 

The owners have already tried to change the use of part of their garden fronting onto the shared drive, to a car park without planning permission, which use has been contested to prevent regularisation, since it hampers effective enjoyment of the drive and is an ongoing issue. The problem being that there is limited space in the Park for guests parking, before passage is impeded, with one eye on the East Sussex Act, as to access issues in emergencies. There was in fact a fire in Lime Park a few years ago, where the Fire Brigade were in attendance.  Consequently, the applicants would need to provide additional parking facilities on their land, such as not to erode any rights already granted by way of shared access, and here is the nub of the existing car park issue. See Paragraphs 58, 59 and 63 of the decision letter, where this principle is established – WD/95/2284 – T/APP/C1435/A/96/265962/P2.

 

In addition, the present owners have deliberately allowed Leylandii shrubs to grow out of control, in nuisance neighbour fashion and contrary to High Hedge legislation, about which we may need to come back to you as to enforcement, separately and at a later date.

 

Listing Status – English Heritage Application 161759

 

In this case special consideration should properly be given when determining the proposal, since English Heritage have given an application for listing reference number 161759. The Old Rectory is mentioned in an Affidavit by a former gardener named Ron Saunders, as being used in conjunction with The Old Steam House, which is itself on a Monument Protection Programme. East Lodge is already a listed building. Hence the area is already accepted as being of considerable local historic interest, apart from any that may be accorded by the state.

 

It is our understanding that the special interest of this site encompasses the use of the estate in the context of the early electrical generating industry, examples of which are Rudyard Kipling’s ‘Batemans’ and Battersea power station, at opposing ends of the scale. It seems that the former owners of the Park, generated electricity for the whole village, about which significant evidence exists.

 

Should the Rectory become listed in the near future, then it may be any permission that might be granted in between would not be implementable, hence become the cause of confusion and or claims by the applicant, where formerly PPG16 and other government Circulars advise that local authorities should consult with the County Archaeologist in the first instance, then English Heritage if there are any questions as to archaeological value. Where we have advised a listing application is in progress, it might therefore be prudent to defer determination of the application for reports to be obtained.

As and when the application and/or reports are in a condition for a balanced decision to be made, we may wish to be heard, and would ask you to please bear this in mind and keep us informed as to developments.

 

We look forward to hearing from you accordingly and if we can be of any further assistance in this matter, please do not hesitate to contact us.

 

Yours faithfully

 

 

 

HX Electricity Restoration Co Ltd

 

 

 

 

The Old Rectory - East elevation, unspoiled - Peter and June Townley

 

The Old Rectory - East elevation, unspoiled

 

 

 

PERSONS

 

PROPERTY

 

DATE

 

Charles de Roemer

Lime Park (whole)

> 1952

Manor Farm (East Grinstead) Limited

Lime Park (division)

1953 -

Wickens Estates Limited

Shared Drive

> 1986

Lime Park Estate Ltd (LPE)

Shared drive access

1986 -

Russell Pike (Perfect Gardens)

Drive maintenance for LPE

2012 -

-

-

-

Raymond & Martha Morphew

1 Lime Park (now Lime Cottage)

1981- 1996

Shelagh Claire Lambert

Lime Cottage

1996 -

-

-

-

Captain Hanchard Goodwin

2 Lime Park (now Linden House)

1981 - 1987

Henry & Gillian Arnell

Linden House

1987 - 2002

Gillian Arnell

Linden House

2002 - 2005

Louise Elizabeth Jones

Linden House

2006 - 2013

Susan Harriet Vogt & Phillip John Gallagher

Linden House

2013 -

Edward & Elizabeth Cowling

3 Lime Park (now Lime House)

1953 - 1997

Miles Ingram

3 Lime Park (now Lime House)

1997 - 2001

Stephen Phillips

3 Lime Park (now Lime House)

2001

Camille Anne-Marie De Kok

Lime House

2001 - 2014

Huw Andrews

Lime House

2014 -

-

-

-

Charles & Katherine Colville

4 Lime Park (now Lime)

> 1978

Gerada Hendrika Theodora Christiana Brookfield Van Geel

4 Lime Park (now Lime)

> 1981

Clare & Nikolai Askaroff 

Lime (not a director of LPE Ltd in 2012)

1981 - 2008

Clare Askaroff 

Lime (not a director of LPE Ltd in 2012)

2008 -

-

-

-

Gerada Hendrika Theodora Christiana Brookfield Van Geel

Generating Works

> 1981

Nelson Kruschandl

Generating Works

1982 - 1991

Generating Works Restoration Company

Generating Works

1991 - 1997

Lime Park Heritage Trust

The Old Generating Works

1991 -

-

-

-

Lord Bishop of (Diocese) Chichester

The Rectory

1953 -1984

Anthony Roger & Anne Hall

The Rectory

1984 - 1985

Peter & June Townley

The Old Rectory

1985 - 2018

Peter Townley

The Old Rectory

2018 -

John Oliver

Rectory roofs/walls

2012 -

Alison Deshayes

The Old Rectory

2019

Jill Finn

The Old Rectory

2020

Nigel Flood

The Old Rectory

2020

Vector Planning & Design

Rectory Conversion (planning)

2022

Advance Space Building & Design

Rectory Conversion (builders)

2022

-

-

-

John & Bernard (Bernie) Ford

Farmer - drive to Gardner Street

 

-

-

-

-

-

-

...

East Lodge

 

 

 

 

 

Herstmonceux Electricity Generating Works Circa. 1900 - 1936   Links:

 

 

Introduction  |  Instructions  ISBN  Batteries  |  Boiler Room   |  Floor Plan

 Ron Saunders Industrial Revolution  |   Lime Park  |  Machinery  |  Map

  Power House  |  Argus 1999  |  Public Supply  |  Roof Construction  |  Rural Supply

 Sussex Express 1913  Conclusion

 

Archaeology South East   |   East Sussex CC  |  English HeritageSIAS  |  Sx Exp 1999

 

Memories of Herstmonceux by Margaret Pollard

 

 

Herstmonceux Links Page

 

Wentworth House

 

 

 

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GEORGE WASHINGTON

GESTAPO

HEINRICH HIMMLER

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INCAS

IRON CROSS

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